*****SPOILER ALERT*****

Alright, most people at the end of Fusion witness the B.S.L. Station crashing into SR388, causing the so-called destruction of the Metroid Home World. However some people believe that SR388 survived the explosion of the B.S.L. Station collision.





These three screens from the game show the collision of the B.S.L. Station and SR388. And this next screen shows the aftermath of the collision:



Did you know according to the laws of physics, no matter how large the explosion (unless it's a cosmic explosion), because the B.S.L. station is far smaller, the planet SR388 can't be destroyed? The Collision probably caused a mass extinction on the planet but even though the planet was consumed by the explosion, it's merely surface damage.

(This does not extend to if a small object with a high amount of gravity, like a Dwarf Star, a Neutron Star or a Black Hole, cause those objects wouldn't cause an explosion but would shred the planet instead.)



In this picture, on Radar, Samus's ship sees the explosion but the world, SR388, in orange meaning heavy damage, shows that it's still there.

This next screen may be shocking!



Now you may have different thoughts about what you see here but this collision actually happened. This may shock you. The larger world is Earth! But it's Earth Moch One while we live on Earth Mock Two. The smaller world is a world known as Orpheus, the planet that was once in between Mars and Earth Mock One. Long ago, before Earth Mock Two and the Moon, Orpheos' orbit crosses Earth Mock One and skimmed the Earth's Surface but with enough force to spill out large chucks of both planets around Earth, orbiting it. After one revolution around the Earth, Orpheus directly collided with Earth again, spilling out far more chucks before in an explosion that consumed the Earth 3 times, pushing the chunks into an orbit where the debris can form a moon instead of rings around the devastated Earth Mock One, now the Proto Earth Mock Two.

Just so you know, before the Orpheus/Earth Collision, both worlds had life where all life on both worlds became extinct...no survivors. But the devastation of the double collision sparked new single celled organisms on the planet.

Also, Orpheus was half the size of Water Planet Earth Mock One.

Since the Earth was involved in a larger explosion than SR388, SR388 had to have survived, and since most of the life on SR388 is underground, the mass extinction couldn't have affected the majority of the creatures, meaning the X are still around.

Unlike SR388, Zebes was not so lucky. Since Zebes was blown up from within, the Planet was destroyed obviously.

Is the Orange part REALLY the remnants of SR-388....

Looks more like an explosion to me hahah!

...so...is Earth at end?

And i've never heard of anything like Earth to do with Metroid....but, eh, whatever, it's still info...

I'm pretty sure that when someone interviewed a Nintendo
worker he said that SR-388 was destroyed after the BSL collision.

Theres a difference between "pretty sure" and "sure." Can you prove evidence to back up your claim?

I'm sure he said it. I don't have the link anymore, but ask anyone.
SR-388 was completly destroyed, it does not exist anymore. Even
if you think you have enough scientific proof there is one thing you forgot,
THIS IS A GAME! And in a game, anything is possible. I will quote
what the interview said if I ever find that link.

Gearmaster, next time please add spoiler tags somewhere in the topic, its title or in the description. Just incase someone hasn't played this game yet.

I believe the reason why SR-388 was destroyed is simply because its much more dramatic to have a planet blow up than a big cratter.
As for the Theia (Orpheus)-Earth impact. Both Earth and Theia had no life before the impact, there is a 4 million year gap between the impact and the first appearence of single cell organisms. And the Theia-Earth impact is just a theory.

I know that neither Orpheus nor Earth had any life and I know its jsut a theory, I was using it as a comparison. Orpheus crashed into Earth several times with a must larger size, mass, and explosion and Earth wasn't destroyed, so unless BSL had a Supernova level star inside it, it just wouldn't work. Also in this screen

It shows that the planet is still there and still in orbit, with red all around it to signify hevy damage and possible atmospheric evaporation.

EDIT: Sorry Anubis, I'll add the tags next time.

M-kay, I know a lot about Metroid, but I've never heard about Orphoes or Earth here...I'd like to know about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theia_%28planet%29
Theres some nice planet stuff explenation yeah.
To Gearmaster: Aight.

I know a way the BSL could actually destroy SR-388. Have you ever
played Halo GM? At the end, the Pillar of Autum (A space ship, much smaller than the BSL) gets is Fusion Reactor (power system) unstable, and the
explosion was strong enough to completly destro the Halo it was on.

My point is, your making it seem like the BSL was an asteroid,
just a solid hunk of rock. Maybe then it wouldnt destroy the planet,
but isnt it possible that all the equipment (especially the main
power unit) could have caused the massive explosion, that explosion
in the background looked big enough to completly obliderate the planet.

Yeah, and when you run to sector 3 to shut down the main boiler, it also says something about...AUTO EXPLOSIVES!

And I'm really sorry, but I still don't know what Orphoes and Earth has to do with Metroid, now I'm sooo confused :( .

My ideas towards the topic of the power unit of BSL are not to complex. I think the station was powered by a fusion unit of some sort, this would make th most sense, seeing as the station most likely requires alot of power. Although it would not destroy a planet. A hydrogen bomb uses a fission explosion to compress and ignite the main bomb, which is an uncontrolled FUSION REACTION. If a fusion reactor exploded it could be assumed that the same thing would happen.

But if it was powered by other things, like fusion of anouther power source, then the explosion could be explained by the detonation of the boiler, self destruct explosives, and the molten PYR habitat. Although nothing is confirmed about the power unit. What I think happened to SR388 is atmospheric vaporization, when an atomsphere is made hot enough, which would happen with all the stuff on BSL, the atmosphere can cath fie and explode, due to high concentrations of nitrogen. In addition to killing all things on the planet surface and down a ways, it would make a really large bang. As seen here.


Also the destruction of a Halo would be much easier, seeing as it has far less mass and is artificial, filled with systems and things that would most likely make a bang.

Also for future reference OMA, the reference to Orpheus and earth was just ot explain how a much larger body hitting a planet several times did not destroy a planet, when a small piece of planetoid, BSl, seemingly did. It just can't happen acording to physics.

There is one thing I would like to say on this topic. It is just a game earths physics don't apply. For instance, in this game there is intergalactic travel. In our universe we have no intergalactic travel. Our laws of phsics mean bupkiss in the metroid universe.

<_< Read the whole topic.

Besides, who said the laws of physics now don't apply to the Metroid Universe? Sure, they may be different because knowledge is compounded over time, but that doesn't mean we should just throw the rulebook out the window for this. Reread what Adam said to give Samus her "final mission" and he should explain why they had to do that.

I'm not saying we have to throw out all our physics, but the physics in that universe are vastly different. Like I said they can travel between galxys, but they also can channel sound waves, and light waves. They can also genetically clone and mutate and clone using gamma radiation. This is a completely diffferent universe. What we know doesn't matter. Our laws and scientific principles don't nessecarily apply there. I'm sure some do, but who knows, the planet is probably gone, but we don't know. And using our logic to define things in another universe is actually kind of imbecilic(no offense to anybody opposing this theory) so lets stop arguing and just stop using our physics in other universes. :blink: Woah. I didn't know I could type so much.

Oooooookay.

Time to put this 'debate' to rest.

Lets see, first up:

READ the f'cking dialogue of the game, people.

Better yet, check this out.



Here, Samus details us with what she would like to do to the X-Parasites. Destroy. On the station, and on the planet. And then, in her talk with Adam ..







Adam describes that detonating the station in high orbit would not destroy the X on the planet, just the ones in the station. But ...







Here, Adam says that altering the orbit of the station and setting off the self destruct would include the PLANET in the field of VAPORIZATION. Let us take a look at the definition of vaporize.

Dictionary [dot] Com says:

vaporize

verb
1. kill with or as if with a burst of gunfire or electric current or as if by shooting; "in this computer game, space travellers are vaporized by aliens" [syn: zap]
2. turn into gas; "The substance gasified" [syn: gasify]
3. lose or cause to lose liquid by vaporization leaving a more concentrated residue; "evaporate milk" [syn: evaporate]
4. decrease rapidly and disappear; "the money vanished in las Vegas"; "all my stock assets have vaporized" [syn: vanish]

So now that we all know what that word means, we can progress ..



Here we see the quite large BSL station enter the atmosphere of SR-388.



And explosion. The vaporization will now commence.



Here, we see a large explosion. Now, I hate to point out the obvious, but that is one hell of an explosion. We can clearly denote that there is no longer a planet there, and even if hidden behind the explosion, that still proves that .. this is one hell of an explosion. I don't know about you but something of that magnitude has to do some major damage.

All in all, I deduce that if SR-388 is not entirely destroyed, than at least it's atmosphere is gone. Just, gone. And if a planet does not have an atmosphere, than it has no air, no gases of any kind, and no protection against UV and other sorts of harmful space radiation. This proves that there can no longer be life on the planet. It would either be a scorching hot fireball, or a cold desolate wasteland with no possible means of supporting life.

If you want another example of how something small can destroy a whole planet .. think of Super Metroid. 'Nuff said.

Congratz, thats what I was origionaly saying, that no object of that mass could destroy a planet, sure something of nova scalre temperature would logicaly vaporize the air, as that much heat would cause the oxygen to combust and catch fire.

Yeah, yeah, totally agree.

I can't pick a side in the debate though. I won't say that it has and I won't say that it has not.

Logically, there is no way. The atmosphere might be gone, but the planet would still be there (desolate as it may be).

But, this is a video game. Stranger and more illogical thins have happened in video games, especially the Metroid games ..

Edit: Gearmaster, I just realized that I basically re stated what you said in your first post, haha. Though I did add in the points of the dialogue. That just adds a bit more credit to the theory.

Okay, then I have to agree with Axion and Gearmaster! Except for... we know that the atmosphere was ultimately destroyed, but how much damage to the planet itself was inflicted? Would there be just a huge crater? Or did the planet separate into several chunks?

Ultimately, the holes in the story are left to the imagination of the player. That's why they're there. A story in which you cannot add your own imaginative parts to it is kinduva boring story, even if there is a lot of intrigue and action.

HA!!

Well I like games that have holes also, gives me more room to smack other people wrong theories down. But I do enjoy a game with acurate physics, me being me that is.

I'd imagine it to look something likea huge crater wiht debris orbiting around the planet.. That or an WoW Outland effect.

So... you want another Tallon IV-type of planet in the series, huh?

The Earth Moch One thing I knew about, that caused the formation of the Moon according to some scientists.

So now SR388 is either a load of chunks or slightly bigger...

Well, what does it USUALLY look like when a space station crashes into a planet and detonates a superlarge nuclear explosion?

Oh, wait. That's right. None have ever been seen before...

We don't really need mars do we?

QFT.

Eh what? :huh:

QFT means 'Quoted for the truth.'

Ah, makes sense...

Thanks, JJ. ;)

And Strafe? What if there really is life on there? And where else can humans colonize on another planet while not yet having mastered FTL (faster-than-light) travel?