The pirates must have had a plan.

Way I see it, Federation must have known where Zebes was: Samus couldn't have escaped otherwise. A tiny fighter like the one she leaves in at the end of Zero Mission, which requires the support of a carrier, couldn't possibly carry the equipment needed for interstellar flight. I think someone must have been waiting for Samus nearby, to pick her up upon mission completion. I think Samus' ship was not a gunship but a stealthy infiltration craft instead, meant to get past the frigates in orbit without detection. Samus could then move freely around Zebes to complete her objectives: Eliminate the pirate leader, and end the metroid threat.

But, anyway, I believe the Federation knew where Zebes was, and if they did, then surely the pirates would expect a lot of battlecruisers to start showing up. They're pirates: They don't have the manpower or equipment to fend off a large-scale attack. The Federation must have had a reason to send a single covert operative in, rather than an invasion force. That reason could only be that Ridley or Mother Brain had a gun to the head of the universe, and had made sure that the Federation knew about it.

What would that be? Missiles full of metroids? No, a fleet or orbital defenses could destroy them before landing. At the least, the ships near Zebes would destroy any outgoing objects. It would have to be something more stealthy, but something that would be triggered from Zebes. Perhaps metroids smuggled into and hidden in multiple population centers?

Just what is it about metroids that makes them so, if not dangerous, then important? And threatening enough to warrant Samus, but delicate enough to warrant not a huge honking fleet? They are nearly indestructible, that's a point, but they're only good for killing one target at a time, useless against a crowd or an army. They can't be trained, or at least efforts to train them are so far fruitless anywhere during or before Echoes, making them ineffective assassins. Their energetic abilities are impressive, but I don't see how they could be used in a way that would fit the ultimatum situation unless metroids can be used as bombs.

Anyone have any ideas?

Many metroids could kill many soldiers, the space pirates wanted lots of them for that reason.

Does anyone have any REAL ideas?

Weeellll...lemme think.

The Metroid multiply, and with the abundance of space pirate areas, they could easily constantly multiply metroid with the beta rays, and also, the first thing a Metroid sees will think it is it's mother, and if the newly created Metroids see the space pirates first(most likely to happen), then the Metroid will follow his orders. With the vast multiplication of them, they will kill anything in sight, and who says that large Metroid's can't leech on more than one thing at once? You only assume they can do that because only Samus(one person at a time) has encountered Metroids, or something. And when the parasite X take over an organism, there can sometiemes be two or more in them, thus when the Metroids suck on them, they are sucking on more than one victim at a time.

And who knows? With technology like that in the future, she could run on solar power, and after all, once you've gone into space, you don't need fuel, you go at the same speed you were launched into it, Samus would only need side fuel for steering, and there's also autopilot.

I think the Federation couldn't afford to send in a mass invasion to Zebes. First, they have to administrate the other planets. Second, they would lose too many people. Third, if a Metroid got into a ship....? They're screwed. They may be able to do that by a suicide plane ejecting a Metroid into the ship by crashing into it. Mother Brain? How the hell are the Federation people going to locate it, AND reach it, AND defeat it, when there is so much friggin Metroids and security around there. Therefore, the Federation...just can't do that. That's why they had to send in Samus. 100% reliable. 100% get the job done. 100% revenge.

Also, other than the Ing taming the Metroids, I believe that Samus has also done that...right?

Currently(notice the word currently), there are still Metroids...or should I say, A Metroid still lurking around. That's right. Samus Aran.

1.capture Samus
2. extract blood
3. DNA stuff yada yada
4.remake the Metroids
5. World domination!(please wait a moment for Samus to once again absolutely PWN the pirates)

Actually, I hope this happens for the future of fighting more and more Metroids. Goddamit gimme a new type of Metroid! Like a Delta Metroid, :lol: !

Space pirates+Metroids=danger
Space pirates+Metroids+Samus Aran=total destruction of both the Metroids and Space pirates.

Well, there ya go, is that a REEEAAALLLL Idea in your opinion?

O.K. good answer.
But WHY are the metroids so importnt? All you did just there was tell me the obvious and say "metroids are/were important/dangerous."
Although you didn't awsome my question.
Why wouldn't the federation send a massive battle fleet to a small planet that posseses only small fighters and a large mother ship, in addition to Motherbrain. Thats not much weapons. So why would the federations send in a single operative?
Remember, the origional mission of Samus was to exterminate the space pirates on the planet. Surely a army of better euqipiied soldiers could have done that. Why did the feds send a single operative in for the origional mission?

Metroids: Hostile, total killing machines, and if there are enough, the space pirates could obviously eventually destroy all galactic civilization.

Like I said: too risky, the Feds would lose way too many people, the space pirates obviously reinforces Chozodia well. There are also reinforcements as well that could easily reach Zebes in time, besides, some homing missles could take the Feds right out.

Remeber, in the intro of Metroid Zero Mission, it tells them to destroy the Metroids as well.

Equipped soldiers? Nothing is as great as the awesome power of Chozo weapons yaaaah!

In the game booklet, the background story tells that the GF did indeed send an invasion force, but it was hopelessly wiped out. That's why they sent Samus.

Also, the Metroids were key to the SPs because of their energy-siphoning properties. The SPs wanted to study -- and also replicate -- this phenomenon, but couldn't quite do it right. So they extracted the energy from the Metroids in order to use it for themselves, but that proved to be highly inefficient.

Which brings us to Metroid Prime. The SPs used Phazon as a food for the Metroids that happened to survive the destruction of the Orpheon and managed to get a lot of energy out of it. They also found the Metroid Prime, which had to limit to Phazon-storage, and so they started using it for an energy source. They also used the strange mutating properties of Phazon to create their Elite Pirates and other strange creations. All the while, the Metroids were kept as safe and isolated as possible until "extraction time", when the SPs would basically draw out the energy from the Metroids' nuclei.

So, in a nutshell, the SPs used Metroid as batteries. Simple as that.

Well first of all, MP comes before SM, just FYI.

Now, regarding your earlier mention of an Invasion force. Answer me this, why only Samus? Surley a fleet of ships armed to the control panels with guns would be more effective then a single agent. Keep in mind, in the origional Metroid they sent Samus in by herself. If this was her first mission with the feds why would they trust the salvation of the universe and termination of their enemy to the hands of a single soldier rather then sending a whole fleet also?

Because a whole fleet failed to pierce the planet! The SPs had their fleet and managed to wipe them all out, so why not send a small force (in this case, an army of one) to stealthily pierce the planet's defenses and defeat Mother Brain, destroy the Metroids, and deal some more damage to the SPs?

BTW, what do you mean about MP and SM? I didn't mention SM at all.

Well you talked about SM first then MP, I assumed you had some confusion with the timeline. Andyhoo, remember this, Metroid/Zero mission was Samus's FIRST mission. What would make the federation think that a new recruit that they have no knowledge about would be able to take on a planet of bad guys?

A piercing mission leading to a sabotage mission.

You still didn't answer my question. Why would a goverment send a new recruit that they have little knowledge about on a class 5 mission? Wouldn't they send a more trusted individual who has succesfully cmpleated many, many missions? Despite the fact that s/he would die?

She did complete numerous difficult missions! It said so in the booklet. She had completed a lot of tough assignments in record timing and more thouroughly than any other bounty hunter / mercenary at the time! She was the best at the time... and the Federation used her to do it!

You know what? Go to Wikipedia and research MZM, then use Google for the rest of the holes.

Actually, if you think about it, Samus had experience on Zebes before, who better to send for a covert mission? Not to mention her training with both the Chozo and the Galactic Federation. Even if it was her first real mission, I am sure they knew that she had experience ..

She was already an accomplished and famous bounty hunter, but her past has been a mystery. The Federation didn't know much about her past; I think they didn't even know much about her until 20X5.

The pie-rats harvested the metroids because they were living, rechargeable batteries.

There you go, you contradidcted yourself

So why wouldn't they send along some troops or her AND a fleet, if they knew very little about her, what makes you think they knew she was from Zebes, or that she knew it like the back of her hand?

It said so in the booklet, maybe? She was from K-2L, but after the massacre, the Chozo brought her to Zebes, where she was raised until they suddenly left and left behind a Chozo battle suit for her.

"didn't know much about her past!!!!!"

And they ALREADY sent a fleet! HOW THICK IS YOUR SKULL?!?!

About .43 of an inch of fused bone and cartalige.

Yes they did send a fleet, which failed, so then they send a single agent, Samus, why not send anouther fleet? Also how did a fleet of small ships such as the ones in ZM defeat a fleet. The pirates are nomads, hence they don't have very large ships for fast movement. A large fleet of battle cruisers couldn't have lost, unless the feds are in cahoots with the SP's.

They didn't leave her, they chose to let her walk her own path. Like it said in some of the scans in Prime. She came back and they were wiped out by the pirates. But they had faith in her and left weapons behind for her to use.
Jeez miles, how thick is YOUR skull?

I'm arguing with you, MW! And I haven't measured it yet, but I know enough to stick with the facts and research before asking!

I agree with gearmasters original statement. I think that they must have a a remote detonator, that would let a a metroid free, somewhere in the Federations, top ranking person's dwelling. Thats is the only pheasible explanation.

Well, history does repeat itself! It's possible...

Why would history repeat itself? Does anyone want a history lesson? Just ask me... And yes, it's "real life" modern history.

Fine then Mr. Iknoweverythingaboutgearmasterknowingnothingabouthistory, tell me, when has it repeat itself?

Fine then Mr. Iknoweverythingaboutgearmasterknowingnothingabouthistory, tell me, when has it repeat itself?

:blink: Whoa... deja vu...

I meant as the U.S.A. entered WW2: there's a rumor/conspiracy about FDR letting Japan bomb Pearl Harbor so that they have enough public support for entering the war... Same thing, without the public opinion aspect of it.

Anything else unknown about Metroid... that's where Nintendo lets the players let their imaginations roam...

Crack is bad there kidster. Don't make me send you to rehab.

If I'm on anything, it's sugar. And check this...

Getting of toooooooooooooooopic...

Try dead topic...

indeed....let it die and reply no mroe to this topic.
Reported for lockitude.

Seriously, quit this ordering locking thing. Dead topics don't need to be locked just left alone.

Sorry, thats just me, stuck in my old ways.